The councils proposal and what residents say

Thanks to everyone who has taken the trouble to visit the web site (785 visits to date) especially those who have left comments and filled in the survey.

Here's a letter from the council about the meeting on Weds 26th November and our thoughts.

Here's what you said in the survey. We'll pass this to the council (no names or personal data will be shared).

bumps, 20 speed zone and one way all the way or split in half, and the situation would be much better. my car was damaged too in saltram crescent in november by someone which was driving too fast and even didn't leave any details. i found the nice surprise the following morning!

Don't like 45 degree parking idea.

I feel speed humps strategically placed would stop speeding along the road. Something must be done immediately before a fatality occurs.

I feel speed humps strategically placed would stop speeding along the road. Something must be done immediately before a fatality occurs.

Turning out of the side streets from Denholme etc onto Fernhead is dangerous due to cars parking so close to the road junctions that it is almost impossible to see cars on Fernhead until you pull out. Anything that would make residents have to go around the block to access their houses etc (such as a split one way street) would make this worse by increasing traffic turning into Fernhead from side roads. Although speed bumps are expensive etc, I think that a speed limit will simply be ignored by those who speed along Saltram anyway.

There is traffic constantly using Malvern place, saltram crescent and bradiston road as a cut through from Carlton vale to fernhead road and visa versa. This should be stopped as there is a perfectly good turning at top of fernhead road.

Only two short sections of one way are needed, pointing outwards, to stop the wrong traffic from coming in: one between Bradiston Raod and Malvern Place, one between Fordingley Road and Shirland Road.

Please forget my comments re traffic cutting through bradiston and Malvern. I monitored it over last 24h and it wasn't much. There is the potential for it to be a problem if traffic lights are installed at top of fernhead as was planned when the roundabout was going to be developed

Would like to see some signs warning drivers that children play in the street and also cross the street, as well as elderly and disabled people that are in the area. I think more signs relating to hazard perception I think would be very beneficial.

When are they coming to remove the cars that crashed a month ago??? That are taking up residents paid spaces!????

Thanks for putting this together. It would be beneficial to have a central portal/point of contact where residents can know each other and connect on issues like traffic and more (rubbish, upkeep, etc).. Happy to contribute in whatever way possible as we are just as keen to see the area improve and flourish.

How nice would it be to make Saltram Crescent a fully pedestrian, cobblestone street. But I do realise I am probably dreaming here..

THIS NEEDS TO BE DONE QUICKLY...NOT IN A YEARS TIME. SOMEONE WILL DIE VERY SOON. ITS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME. ITS RIDICULOUS NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE NOW. PLEASE HELP.

20mph would only work if it is enforced with cameras. Otherwise most drivers will just ignore it. Speed bumps are a really bad idea. They increase engine noise as drivers accelerate away from them. In a street as acoustically sensitive (narrow and high-sided) as this, that would be a real problem. Chicanes would work if there were enough of them to really slow drivers down. Just one of two at the ends of the street won't have much effect. One way all the way is a really bad idea, for the reasons you mention. It would probably just make the situation worse. Well done for doing something.

I would combine the 20mph speed sign with the half road one way solution. People may still speed down half the road so the legal zoning and signs may deter some racers. Given the school on fernhead road, more children crossing signs may is cheaper and make irresponsible drivers have no option but to slow down. Great work with this initiative. I hope we can make Saltram Crescent a safer place for its residents

I have also been in touch with the council with regards to this ongoing issue and some others. As far as I am aware Karen Buck is looking into this as well as the council. Another issues is the dumping of rubbish on the street. This has been ongoing and the council are working hard at trying to sort it out. The problem is residents constantly dump their rubbish and old furniture on the street. This is unacceptable and devalues the street. Finally, the agents boards that get left up for weeks if not months. Some agents put boards when they don't even have a property to sell or rent. I have reported this to the council recently. I have been working hard on the above matters for the past few months and had no idea that other residents feel the same. I would very much like to meet up!

We have lived here four years and often signal for dangerous drivers to slow down. I've also experienced multiple near misses. Dangerous driving on SC is a genuine concern and I applaud those who have built this website and petition. It has our full support.

Glad something is finally being done about this dangerous street. I've lived here over 10 years and it's always been a problem. Nothing short of stopping the road being used as a through route will suffice. As long as drivers have the option to use it as a rat run, they will speed.

There is a desperate need for pedestrian crossings between Fernhead Rd and Queens Pk roundabout. (Premier Corner) .Currently, several lanes of fast traffic flow in 6/7 different directions making crossing extremely dangerous.

Can we consider closing some of the streets between Fernhead Road and Saltram Crescent to deter drivers as using this road as an option? I guess the one way system on half of the road would help with this. In addition can we have the 20mph zone regardless of whatever other action is taken?

I fail to see how a 20mph will work - you will still have cars speeding whatever the limit.

One way split in half will mean the side roads will become much busier. and asct as rat runs. Not acceptable Chicanes and 20mph is the solution. Not bothered about passing being an issue. this actually deters drivers using the road

How serious is the council taking our concerns at present? What do we need to do to get their attention? Thanks for taking the initiative with this one, it's important.

As the father of a toddler who insists on getting out of the buggy and walking/running home along the footpath on Saltram crescent, I would feel much more comfortable if the traffic had some tighter controls. There's very little room for error if a car loses control or if my toddler darts onto the road. It would make for a much safer and more pleasant street if something can be done, so you have my full support.

Really appreciate someone taking the initiative about this problem. It's only a matter of time before there's an accident. Cars driving too fast, and using Saltram as a permanent cut through route to Shirland Road. It must stop!

No entry from Shirland Road up to Fordingley Road AND No Entry from Fernhead Road up to Malvern Place. This would allow two-way traffic along Saltram Crescent but would stop traffic using the road as a short cut. (This was proposed by the Council a number of years ago but dropped.) The junction at Fernhead Rd and Saltram Cr is also an accident spot. Traffic races down Fernhead Rd from Queen's Park and because Saltram Cr is wider at this junction than the rest of the Crescent and the entry is less than 90 degrees, traffic is able to accelerate around this corner into the crescent. (There have been two accidents at this spot this year - to my knowledge. One involving a child and one a cyclist.) the problem is exacerbated by cars/vans parking in Saltram right up to the junction and obstructing the sight lines into Saltram. Saltram Crescent should be narrowed at this point to equal the width of the rest of the Crescent, it should be realigned to make the entry at right angles to Fernhead and no parking/waiting rigidly enforced in this area. This action would reduce the excessive speed at the northern part of Saltram Crescent..

High time something was done. Since sewer works on Fernhead Road, on Saltram has become de facto route to Shirland Road. Traffirc roaring down the road all hours day and night. A lot of money spent Fernhead speed camera's and nothing on Saltram - it's like a race track! Really pleased someone is taking initiative re this. Thank you!

Speed bumps probably the best

Thank you for organising this website, as a resident I feel relieved that something is being done as I think it's only a matter of time before a fatal accident. The speeding at night concerns me the most.